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Posted by: Ian Morrison at time: 05/05/2010 06:48
Sincerest condolences to Peter Heathfield's family at this sad time.
Ian Morrison
Hucknall Loyal to the last
Secretary
Nottinghamshire NUM Ex & Retired Miners Association
Posted by: Russ Guy at time: 05/05/2010 03:22
Can i just mention on this page, i am saddened to learn of the passing of a comrade i first met many moons ago ( or so it seems ) at the Yorkshire Miners W'end Schools, Vic Lindsay.
Vic was the Rossington Branch Delegate and was a pleasure to draw on his wealth and experience when in his presence.
R.I.P. Comrade, a working class hero !!
Posted by: Andy Bowker at time: 06/05/2010 00:28
Having just read,the sad news of the loss of both,Peter Heathfield and Vic Lindsay.Both men were true trade unionists and miners to the end,inspite of illness.I knew both men,and classed them as friends.The N.U.M as lost two pillars of wisdom,and a part of our history R.I.P,Remember The Miners United,Will Never Be Defeated.
Posted by: Chris Skidmore at time: 07/05/2010 13:32
On behalf of Rossington Miners I would like to thank everyone who journeyed both near & far to pay their respects to Vic Lindsay on Wednesday 5th May.Working at "Rosso" & since, I gained much from him and shared both good times & bad. Someone I admired, so proud to be his friend and the sad thing is I never told him so and now so wish I had. "The Big Meeting " will never be the same old pal (till perhaps we all meet together again) God Bless Vic sleep sound marra your pain has gone, ours is just beginning.
Posted by: EDITOR at time: 04/05/2010 22:19
To Chris Skidmore, You seem to attribute the article 'Brown's Gaffe' to me. It was a Guardian Article by Seumas Milne which if read properly was in support of Labour. Also let me point out to my good friend CJRK that the first Labour candidate ever to stand in Barnsley was stoned by miners in Market Square. It was said he would split the Liberal vote that the Miners' Federation supported at that time. I seem to be getting some verbal stoning but I am proud to be a Socialist who stands as one regardless.
I say to CJRK 'It takes a worried man to sing a worried song'
Posted by: Wayne at time: 05/05/2010 11:46
Editor,
Not too many weeks ago you criticised me for airing my views on this site instead of 'having the guts' to speak to you face to face. You have previously attacked the NEC ( by arttacking it's National Secretary) for it's handling of this unions finances. Even though you sit in on every meeting!! Now you seem to be airing your views quite freely as a candidate for the SLP. Even though the organisation that pays for this web-site does not support it!! Are these truly the views of a so-called independant editor?
Posted by: steve at time: 05/05/2010 20:24
It should well be worth noting that this website does belong to a political trade union but no one has the right to dictate to any visitor or member who they should vote for! It is the individuals sole right to vote for which ever political party they wish to cast there vote in favour of. Democracy should always prevail even though we know it doesn’t always. People visiting this Guest Book should be aware that with the NEC Elections approaching certain people are carrying out a witch hunt against the editor, who does a first class job not only with the website but also with the miner and has the full support of the second largest branch in the country. Wayne and Chris seem to think they have a right to attack him and he must keep quiet and not be allowed to defend himself and then call themselves democrats. Ken is entitled to his views as well especially when he is the subject of unprovoked attack. I am saddened that the three of you have chosen the Guest Book to carry on this unseemly and orchestrated attack on the editor. It was for this very reason that the Guest Book had to be suspended last year when the NEC Elections were taking place. As a candidte in the NEC election in Yorkshire I think it needs to be suspended again.
Steve MaceNEC Member
Posted by: Period of Reflection at time: 05/05/2010 20:39
Are we really so tribal,authoritarian,intolerant of others,blustering and heading for a blown heart gasket?.Miners/supporters ALL over Britain felt/feel a tremendous sense of solidarity with Wales(as long as it's Maerdy not mardy!).Differences have existed for years.Scargill's rise in Yorks was a rank and file thing.The old left WERE the union establishment in Wales/Scotland(Martin Jacques etc have a lot to answer for!).Didn't do too bad a job in frightening the fascist state well beyond our 'sell by' date though did we?.I've read the postings and you seem to be reading much more into the editor's stances/replies than what's actually there.I know some letters are witheld,perhaps rightly in hindsight.Are you WILFULLY choosing to misinterpret what he's saying?.Would you REALLY want the union to airbrush recent leaders from its history/and reduce the Guestbook to a 'Swap you 2 Yorks Area strike badges for a Kent one'?.What would McGahey have said to any young un' trying to force a Modern Labour orthodoxy onto him?.Back home tail between legs methinks.Don't take yourself too seriously/blow a fuse.Remember the site's in the business of importing questionable obits!.See NONE of us agree with the poor flamin' editor,but not all of us rant at him? with the air of someone seemingly forever on the defensive from slights real or imagined,or possessed with an apparent degree of menace consistent with someone dying to use the phrase made famous by Alan Sugar.
Posted by: Wayne at time: 06/05/2010 10:23
Thank you Steve, you have also identified that there is an election within Yorkshire and once again this site is being taken advantage of. Incidentally, I have never suggested to anyone that they should not vote for the party of their choice. However, my point in relation to the National Secretary being attacked in the previous election campaign by the Editor surely is justified, is it not? If the NEC are being challenged in the way it reviews the Unions' finances have we not the right to reply? Or do we need to raise it through the Certification Officer as everyone seems to be doing these days!! More importantly is it not our remit, as elected NEC members, to raise matters of concern at the appropriate time and place!!
If the suggestion of suspending the Guestbook had come from myself I wonder what the views would have been in relation to democracy? But I do agree that it is appropriate to do so whilst the campaign is ongoing.
Regards
Posted by: Reply to Wayne at time: 06/05/2010 11:27
I interpreted guidance on who you should vote for as this below. Just goes to show we can read into it what we think in different ways unless people are precise in what they actually mean. Think about it.
Quote from earlier posting
'if you want to waste your vote on a party that stuggles to field more candidates than the "Monster Raving Loony Party" then thats up to you.It`s your vote do what you want with it just consider this you don`t succeed in life by taking your ball home when you can`t get your own way!'
Posted by: Wayne Bywater & Family at time: 04/05/2010 16:13
Deepest sympathy to Peter Heathfield's family. The NUM and wider trade union movement have lost a true friend.
A real working class hero.
Posted by: Chris Skidmore at time: 04/05/2010 13:57
The latest edition of "The Miner" carried the headlines "Make sure you vote on May 6th Make sure you vote Labour" given the Editors political persuasion I have to say I was pleasantly suprised. However "normal service" was quickly resumed in the inclusion on the News Feeds on the Web Site entitled Browns Gaffe (copied & pasted from the Guardian as usual!) I cannot see how you can say one thing in one type of medium and attempt at ridicule in another.I am the first to wonder why the Labour Party hasn`t delivered on its promises to our sacked & victimised miners or on the question of the Miners Pension Scheme scandal or a commitment to the Coal Industry in Britain.However you don`t resolve the situation by cheap shots & slagging off what still should be the political party that puts working class interests first.
Posted by: Cortonwood at time: 04/05/2010 13:48
Sincere condolences to the family and friends of Peter Heathfield. From the mining fraternity.
Posted by: Oil Spills and environmental carbon nutters at time: 04/05/2010 09:45
We are now witnessing more damage to our habitat from accidents and natural phenonamens (Check spelling)than anything that a coal fired energy supply would cost including damage to the economy. The 84/85 was about keeping the working class down disbelieve it at your peril you environmental groups and lobbyists. Consider the cost and damage a Nuclear accident would cause.
Posted by: CJRK at time: 30/04/2010 01:40
Ken do you have a thing about seeing your name on a ballot paper? NUM NEC elections, Euro elections and now the General election, what next another go for the NEC? Did you conceder before putting forward your nomination for Barnsley East that you may well be helping the BNP by splitting the Labour vote.
Posted by: Cortonwood at time: 04/05/2010 09:39
I live in Barnsley Central and have voted for Terry Robinson SLP so I could not vote for Ken Capstick. Its the other parties that are splitting the vote not SLP. You did wanta socialist government did you not CRJK
Posted by: Chris Skidmore at time: 04/05/2010 14:04
Eddie if you want to waste your vote on a party that stuggles to field more candidates than the "Monster Raving Loony Party" then thats up to you.It`s your vote do what you want with it just consider this you don`t succeed in life by taking your ball home when you can`t get your own way! Our National President told us that when Thatcher enticed some Nottinghamshire Miners into forming the U.D.M. !!
Posted by: Get My Way? at time: 04/05/2010 22:43
Mr Balls and his friend are saying vote tactically thats what I have done.
I see no reason why I should vote for anyone who is not as capable as me or shares my ideals and thats the way its going to be now.
If the Labour Party wants to field idiots that their problem as for the raving loony party I have never voted for them. At least the struggling party has got good committment and loyalty to their cause.
As for succeeding I am happy with my conribution to life which is far more than the people you support intellectually and vocationally.
Your thinking has seen people like me and many others turn their back on your party not taking their ball home because they cannot have their own way. Once again you show the patronising views of many of your party who fail to get out of a paper bag without help as your leader begged for support tonight.
Posted by: Nick Wroughton at time: 05/05/2010 11:49
No cheap shots-seen the cost of broadband?!.The higher echelons(I am joking)of the S Derbys UDM were Labour Party members.Arthur's exhortation to Notts miners had little to do with bats or balls,as Chris well knows.He pleaded with them not to repeat the mistakes of Spencer(yes a 'wilderness' option but one backed by the bosses).I feel sure that ALL contributors would rather see New Labour repeat the mistakes of Bevan rather than those of Ramsay MacDonald.Which side of the current debate do you fall on Chris?.Do you advocate tactical or principled voting?.If principled,then what's the problem?.I see The Mirror has sneaked some 'baby out with bathwater' chicanery into its tactical voting advice,targeting Respect/a former Welsh Labour stalwart.How about the masses who don't vote?.None of us want to see the Tories in power with rosettes coloured blue,yellow or red and yellow.Nick Wroughton.
Posted by: Referred to as Eddie by Chris Skidmore at time: 05/05/2010 12:09
Labour's current lord chancellor provided vital legal advice at the height of the miners' strike 20 years ago to enable the Tory government and the National Coal Board to assist the breakup of the National Union of Mineworkers revealed in secret documents released to the Guardian.
Spoke too soon again?
Read 'The Enemy Within'
I talked to another misinformed retired miner in Edlington today.
Some people have invented stories in their head about people rather than searching for the truth. This further evidence makes me feel I have made the right choice.
Posted by: CJRK at time: 30/04/2010 01:29
After watching the last leadership debate I have to admit that both Cameron and Clegg seem to have improved their acting skills far more than Gordon Brown over the three debates. If we were voting for the next reality TV star to give the media someone to report on I would be hard pushed to choose between them. The reality is that next Thursday we are voting for who will lead this Country out of recession and back to prosperity. While the TV debates have filled a few hours on the TV schedule I do hope when casting their vote’s people remember its policies not personalities that they should conceder. For me it has shown that Cameron is a true old fashioned Tory with the same look after your own kind Tory policies and Clegg is the likable lad with no policies to put across. Gordon Brown may not have the TV presence of his rivals but he knows what has to be done and how to do it. It’s vote Labour for me.
Posted by: Brown Noser at time: 03/05/2010 19:39
Ah hav tae apologise tae the world n his wyfe.Ah mustae forgort wi my continual canoodlin' wi Murrrdork n his cru(while a victem o selerctiv memory oer the likes ae Wappin n Mine Fuhrer etc an nae affordin the same arccess tae the Campaign Group et al)the auld adage:-If ye sup wi the dervil,better avail yersel wi a bloody lorng spoon!!.
Posted by: Industrial Tribunal at time: 04/05/2010 09:54
Before I voted I considered what an Industrial Trbunal would have thought if it had been me sitting in front of them having done what they have done. How many good union people have been shit on by these kind of people look at what they did with Arthur Scargill. I do not know Arthur personally but I have stood by him and spoke to him several times and he seems an ordinary likeable person to me. Not the written about person the press like to release and he has not thrown himself off a 'Bankers' yacht yet to my knowledge.
Posted by: william smith at time: 28/04/2010 12:32
could anyone tell me were i can buy a miners lamp
Posted by: noscralc at time: 28/04/2010 19:51
what type of lamp you after?
Posted by: Chris Skidmore at time: 29/04/2010 08:55
It depends where you live William,also what sort of lamp you require,for instance you can stroll round Barnsley Market & pick a used one up there are Heating Appliance shops that sell them but usually they are replicas.You can get a brand new one from The Protector Oil Lamp Co.at Eccles Nr.Manchester.E Bay i am told often advertises them.The Durham Miners Gala in July often has stalls that specialise in Mining Memorobilia. Hope that helps!
Posted by: backworth at time: 01/05/2010 19:11
try e-bay
Posted by: e ellis at time: 04/05/2010 17:31
theres a lamp meeting in june at pleasley in derbyshire plenty for sale there http://www.thebigmeet.org/
Posted by: michael conway at time: 28/04/2010 05:50
Fraternal MAY DAY Greetings to the NUM,(A slightly edited copy of a proposal as outlined below)
A PROPOSAL FOR Discussion and Debate by the NUM and also a Provisional Proposal for Direct Action to reverse a long term NUM Grievance.
By mick conway BTEC Nat Dip Health and Science
FA Dip Physiotherapy
NCB Mining Apprenticeship
NCB Engineering Apprenticeship = 12 and a half years FT study, plus 17 years working in Coal Industry in Britain.
I write to condem the situation regarding non successful or denied claims to NUM members for Industrial Injuries/Diseases such as Osteoarthritis of knee joints and vwf plus all other NUM disputed medical decsions.
As a practising physiotherapist who has also completed both a mining and engineering craft apprenticeships, i find this situation totally unacceptable.
Therefore to counter,, what has been refered to before this communication,, (sent to the NUM and entitled “The Deliberate False Medical Misdiagnosisâ€), therefore to counter this SITUATION , essentially “VICTIMISATION†of NUM members applying for the above legislated for and legally binding “INDUSTRIAL /RSI /INJURIES/DISEASES ,, therefore to counter these STATE practices or POLICIES, (AGAINST THE NUM) ,,I thus propose the following NUM policy, to win these NUM DISPUTED claims,, basically as fast as possible.
The proposal thus is essentially made up of a series of measures as follows;
1. The Num appropriately appoint an Independant Medical tribunal to re – examine ALL DISPUTED NUM claims, individually.
2. When the results are compiled a “FAST TRACK†approach to winning these claims is thus proposed here and if the Government are not prepared to essentially reverse these “ROBBERIES†via these civil service employees’ (outlined , to the NUM Membership, (via the “The Deliberate False Medical Misdiagnosisâ€), then Action , via taking this issue , plus, into the capital and dealing with this situation, via PROTEST with people such as “Andreas†who I personally corresponded to this evening, via the NUM web page, thus with International suppport,,the NUM can win this and quickly.
Not to do anythin,, would be a mistake in this members view,, when “THERE ARE OPTIONS “ such as a PROTEST march in London “â€that could and should be very well supported.
3. Also as Proposer of THIS RESOLUTION “to win JUSTICE†for the NUM ,the certainty that these NUM members are most definitely being “ROBBED†is the reason this proposal has been written and written about previously ,, ((via the “The Deliberate False Medical Misdiagnosis†by conway)), and ((sent)) DIRECTLY to the NUM,, then Action on the Streets is being , most definitely “PROPOSED†here ,, seeking support from the NUM,, to redress this “ABUSE†of NUM members being denied access to funds that 10 years ago ,,were reported by some sections of the media, to be over half a BILLION pounds sterling to fund these claims legislated for,, in or at Westminster and then BLOCKED by these essentially,, UNCHALLENGED anti NUM/socialist/human rights/legislated for Rights, Bastards.
4. Also propose that the NUM , armed with this “NEW MEDICAL ACCURATE TRUTHFUL AND ETHICALLY SOUND EVIDENCE†then MOST DEFINITELY STARTS LEGAL ACTION AGAINTS THIS PERSONEL, (or THESE PERSONEL), IDENTIFIED AS RESPONSIBLE†for ANY DISCREPENCIES found in the new claims evidence gathered as outlined above and ahead.
5. “THE GROUNDS†for such legal action are , to myself as proposer,, not known as I am not a lawyer . However,, as outlined in detail to my comrades previously,, ((via the “The Deliberate False Medical Misdiagnosis†a 2008 or 09 paper by conway)), if these clear ILLEGAL and UNLAWFUL anti NUM medical decisions cannot be challenged and reversed in court, using a test case for simplicity purposes, and this is something that could result very favourably for the NUM cause ,, directly reffered to here, then SOMETHING is intolerably wrong with the Judicial system, especially when one factors into this equation,, the 1978 Incentive Scheme High Court ruling into “THIS PARTICULAR SITUATIONâ€
6. Therfore this PROPOSAL for ACTION send most respectfully to the NUM is essentially a series of SIMPLE measures as follows;
7. A . The NUM appoint or appeal for suitable medical persoonel volunteers,, who are prepared to be working full time on this particular NUM GRIEVANCE and the NUM also find them suitable premises to essentially carry out this INVESTIGATION /RE-EXAMINATION of ALL NUM members’ who have made UNSUCCESFUL claims and that are MOST DEFINITELY DISPUTABLE both medically, legally,, and of course via the (EVIDENCE OF) NUM members themselves being not awarded their rights as these Industrial Injuries/Diseases Pensions have been legislated for in Westmister.
Therefore, if we have to kick the door (of this corrupt talking shop, Weswtminster),, off its hinges,, in order to at least prevent this attempt to HUMILIATE the Greatest Trade Union in the world,, thus to its members,, as described above,, then to STOP this INJUSTICE is what we should do,,
8. Thus written above is A PROPOSAL for debate and discussion by NUM members,, but also all those who supported the NUM in 1984 and still or recently have become essentially comrades of this great trade union,, who so heroically fought the might of the British state ,, namely Thatchers Goverment who invested nearly 8 Billion pounds sterling just 25 years to essentially SMASH the NUM. (Total NUM assests just under 10 million pounds sterling, in 1984)
9. This is a statistic , that defies inaccuract interpretation, as the NUM History is well documented,
10. Also as a measure as part of this proposal,, herebye also therefore,, seek support from the NUM ,, to SIGN ON as many supporters ,, such as the comrade refered to earlier ,, Known by the Code name ,, Andreas,,for the eventuality of being required to take this straight to the streets of London , if and when neccessary and this is not poker or bluff.
11. As far as this writer/Doctor is concerned, those responsible must be also dealt with most severely at some stage in the future or possibly very near future.
12. They are fools if they think that the NUM has not still many friends and they are also fools if they think those international friends will stand by idly and watch it humiliated by these peti bourgoise capitalist pig agents for a pittance, scum , who have effectively turned a RIGHT into a roulettee wheel dice throw.
13. Frankly as a practising physiotherapist this is an totally unacceptable situation and if the NUM chooses to go down this road, via SUPPORTING THIS PROPOSAL for ACTION,,
Then it will defeat the forces who still attack this great UNION and most importantly it can do this quickly as the 1990 Anti Poll Tax Demonstration, althougth self defensive in strategy terms, but nevertheless it showed that these victories can be won and quickly !!!!!!!!!!!
COMRADES Support this resolution ,,
Happy May Day,, Victory is certain,, Our day will come,, Scargill walks on water,,
Signed
Your fraternally,,
Mick conway
Posted by: Someone else has noticed at time: 28/04/2010 21:12
We have to start at local government level.
Arthur Scargill should not be supporting the local Quango debate in June in Barnsley.
These people are hypocrites and should be identified so that we can progress.
Posted by: tricia franklin at time: 06/05/2010 18:07
I was a active miners wife during the strike.My husband an active picket travelling the country to get support. Due to no pite in kent we are isolated now. Applied for the miners knee due to husband now getting diasabled, had no claims before and informed only the working miners could get any compensation, Due to my husband being num claim impossible. Trying again with another solicitor but they want his work record. How can we get that. he worked at several of the kent coalfield pits, we need dates and times any help appreciated. triciafranklin@btinternet.com
Posted by: alan hepple at time: 22/04/2010 12:49
thanks for the response to our e mail [ the link for our song and video of the miners strike is [ you tube] pot bellied boys miners strike ] thans again , it means a lot to me
Posted by: alan hepple at time: 22/04/2010 12:47
thanks to chris kitchen , for the reply to my musical , partners e mail concerning our video and song [whose side are you on ] a tribute to the miners during the strike , all of my famil on my fathers side worked in the mining industry , now sadly destroyed by the thatcher creature , the link is [ you tube , pot bellied boys miners strike , thank you it means a lot
Posted by: Further Details of MPS Pensions in a Video at time: 21/04/2010 14:31
This has been put on a social network Ning.Com by @Barnsley55 and restidributed on Twitter targetting Mining Towns and Cities.
Copy and paste the link into your browser
http://barnsleyonlinefiftyfiveplus.ning.com/video/mineworkers-pension-scheme
Posted by: MPS Pension Grievance at time: 21/04/2010 08:43
@Barnsley55 on Twitter has posted this Mineworkers Pension PDF document on the Ning.com group BarnleyFiftyFivePlusOnline which also appears on the Welsh miners forum and has been distributed to major mining town twitter streams copy and paste the link below to view
http://barnsleyonlinefiftyfiveplus.ning.com/forum/topics/mineworkers-pension-scheme?xg_source=activity
Posted by: Nick Wroughton at time: 19/04/2010 17:43
I'll try not to answer questions with questions,but will endeavor to ask a few.The SLP by its very title is a socialist party.Does Tony Benn regard Labour as a socialist party?.Card votes were long a TUC/Labour Party feature to represent others(one has to be careful re smears/hearsay).The UDM site lapses into Latin(the language spoken by many a breakaway voter??).Tony Parsons(The Mirror)sees New Labour as a broad church-Mandelson to Prescott,and the Milibands to Field!.Gawd 'elp us should the guestbook ever become so narrow in scope!.From the Fed days to when I joined the Labour Party(and the miners' union)33yrs ago,the NUM's always been affiliated to Labour(bet the Liberals weren't too pleased about Old Labour's breakaway in the early 20th century?).Wouldn't eg McGahey have argued strongly for other views to have been considered at the union's top table though,and can someone point me to this elusive(to me)New Labour 'All socialists welcome'guestbook?.'Fraid I tired of the party locally when a Midlands Euro PPC met the UDM's Ken Toon,and the breakaway(we're still awaiting 1985 local voting figures)was smuggled into the party in my area through a branch 'back door'.With £4 billion owed to the miners,anti-union laws still in place,and Conference hurdles long established to dilute dissent,Labour certainly isn't perfect!.High praise though for many tireless Labour councillors in NUM regions(some just a tad top-heavy with outside academics-but no matter).From the national party leadership though,once again a stirring(not!)tiresome battle cry(re-elect us,the blues can only be worse).This once again gives the leadership carte blanche to continue to act like Tories.With New Labour's failure to support my brother-in-law and other postal workers/the Cabin Crew/the RMT etc what exactly HAS changed in 26 yrs?.Could we say New Labour/the unions have a 'Special Relationship?!?.Better for that(assuming it still exists)to be a 2-way thing?.As for those heinous scapegoaters the BNP with 'all the right words'?!,look at New Labour's Manifesto(particularly the lumping together of Crime Justice & Immigration).The SLP(an anti-EU party)stands against economic migration driving down British workers' wages/conditions.With that in mind I'd advise Richard to vote as far left as possible,and smaller parties standing may hold the answer to the current dreadful turnout figures.The europhile anti-union Lib Dems(remember WHY the SDP split from Labour?)would aid in consigning the Post Office(in addition in the past to huge swathes of British industry)to history's dustbin,and wouldn't even be on my radar.Nick Wroughton.
Posted by: Private conversation at time: 24/04/2010 09:34
That answers some of my questions re-SLP and confirms what I thought.
I said block vote of 3000 during the infancy of the SLP was no different to what it was like previously in the Labour Party. So the allegation of some who resigned at that time was not consistent with the claim of a dictatorship.
Also how can you fight from within if you left a labour party in 2000 because of kangaroo court interviews conducted by dictators.
Posted by: Alex bennett at time: 19/04/2010 14:36
danderhall retired miners summer drive will be to Blantyre miners welfare club on saturday 5 june we are still looking for new members who would be interested to join our branch
Posted by: Jim Brannan Jnr at time: 18/04/2010 16:34
My father Jimmy Brannan Snr had drawn some pen and ink pictures to raise funds for the 84 miners strike. At the moment we cannot find the origanal drawings which were sent abroad to be printed. My father has passed away and I am wandering wether they have been archived in your headquarters in Barnsley. Also, do you have a painting hung up in your offices of a miner with a pick axe and dudley sat down in the heading. This was given to my dads cousin, Frank Cave. I have tried to ring Franks family as I know he passed away but cannot get a reply?
Can you help?
Posted by: Chris Skidmore at time: 22/04/2010 15:17
Please contact Phil Thompson the Resident Archivist at the NUM Offices for the information you seek 01226 215555 ext 210 A.M only
Posted by: Richard at time: 16/04/2010 08:33
I'd like to see a question on the poll of who the public would like to see win the election, Lib Dem, Concerv or Labour, I myself vote Liberal Democrats but I'd like to see it asked...
Posted by: bobby clelland at time: 15/04/2010 10:37
remember during the strike my kids singing 'the miners united would never be defeated' well we were not united and we were defeated, some of us are still fighting for our folk and our communities, but following the comments on the site I see we have not learned from the simple kids song, we are divided and the more divided we become, the greater the chance of the Tories getting back into power, is that what any of us want, speaking as a Miner who is a Labour councillor, I admit that the Labour Government is not perfect, but instead of splitting away into tens or hundreds of different political parties we should be united under one banner and become involved in the Party who can stop the Tories, and not assist them back into power
Posted by: Wayne at time: 16/04/2010 17:55
Well said Bobby. Could this Government have done more for the Unions and the mining communities? Of course they could and should have. However, it is the easiest thing in the political world to be in opposition. You can shout and scream all the right words that people can associate with, such as the BNP are doing, but in reality it will not get the people you represent anywhere!! Unfortunately, we live in a different world to what it was 25yrs ago. That is not to say that any of us have forgotten or given up, nor should we, but I can certainly sympathise with OUR Labour councillors who are still trying.
Posted by: CJRK at time: 22/04/2010 22:32
I agree with both of the above comments. The Labour party is our party, we will change nothing by walking away we have to keep in there in order to reverse the shift to new Labour and regain control. No one can say the Labour party is without its faults and I take my hat off to the true Labour party members (not new labour) who continue to fight at local level as councillors for our communities. The easy option is to break away as has happened in the past or form another party where you can have your principled policies without having to consider if they could actually work.
I am concerned about the reality TV style leader debates. Should we place the government of our country in the hands of who does best on TV, I don’t think so.
Posted by: Reply to Wayne at time: 28/04/2010 22:21
In reality they are not 'Labour' councillors in lots of areas just people who fit the 'Sound Bites' of the time hence the huge 'Turn Over' of councillors who are usually mini-entrpreneurs or people topping their pensions up. When we have so many 50+ classified as uneconomic for want of a better phrase why have we so many councillors and Mps in that age category?
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