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Yep,that was a p***er being asked for unpaid NI contributions.Think my reply evoked that Thai holiday spot,Ph*k*t.Good points though regarding those in 'picketed out'and even'driven back to work with pickets long gone'situations who joined/rejoined the strike and stayed 'til the end.Two questions to ask my old MP,the self-serving/publicity-seeking Eggwina;-Are you a democrat?.When the post-85 S Derbys NUM secured a High Court admission from the UDM's Ken Toon that one of the 4 local pits had voted to stay NUM and had been forced to abide by an area vote decision,did you support the poaching,on a pit-wide vote of the NUM Warwickshire Area's Daw Mill Colliery?.

Cortonwood Whilst i accept your logic, how many of our colleagues could find the document you refer to?

An accurate measure of 12 months on strike should be endorsed by the person providing a demand letter for National Insurance contributions which was sent by the then DHSS advising of potential pension benefits shortfall for those on strike who had not contributed that year to their N.I. stamp. So there is a way of proving reality to the claim or including *doubtful at the side of each name without the above evidence. CORTONWOOD lives on

When I instructed Raleys to deal with matters arising from my work in Coal Mines I was fully aware that I was contributing funds to the N.U.M.org.UK Shame on those people who are dealing with the affairs of deceased members of the union in a public way. Long live the N.U.M.org.uk comradery attained by unity by our ancestors working in Mines and Quarries.

To try and get an accurate list of all the men who stayed out on strike for the full twelve months in 84/85 would be totally unrealistic. It would have been difficult enough at the time let alone 25 years on. As many of you know, we already have people who 'conveniently forget' whether they worked during the strike or not!! What if these individuals gave their names to someone who was totally unaware of the true facts? 'Food for thought'-If a list was compiled and archived, would future generations naturally assume 1. that the list was compiled by a professional and would be the 'correct' list. 2. Would not researchers assume that if a relatives name was not on the list, that they would be a SCAB !! That would be the ultimate insult, wouldn't it? Therefore, I would urge caution to anyone trying to gather information twenty five years after the event. You may be contributing to assist scabs in rewriting their 'uncomfortable' history, I would suggest.

Have a look on the Welsh Miners Forum http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/forum/list.php?14 They are collating a list of miners who was on strike the FULL 12 months

Why are there little or no Memorials to Miners and Collieries in this area?(notts)

In the present climate I would have thought the leaders of the western world would have travelled to COPENHAGEN in a NUCLEAR submarine less risk from terrorist threat? and environmentally safe? or is it they are just hypocrits and want China to use their coal first so that we can be world leaders again eventually.

When is the working class going to stand up to these dogmatic managerial tactics?The councillors of the local authorities should sack all the senior managers and let expert informations systems manage the firemen they would do a far better job. We could have more firemen working less hours and same pay. I would urge anyone not to vote for these councillors if they cannot sort this out without reinstating these men and preserving the rest of the firemens working conditions.

Given how near we almost came to a collapse of the energy sector due to the prolonged cold spell we have just endured I have not seen any one putting forward how they intend to ensure we are not placed in the same position in the future. It is clear that private, run for profit energy companies are not going to spend their profits to safeguard against this happening again. Lets be honest about it, they are capitalist companies most of them foreign owned what concern is the security of energy supply for our Nation to them. The only concern they have is for their share holders. We elect a Government to govern the country and it is they who should ensure we have a secure energy supply. Just one more example of where private ownership does not work. Some industries should be run for the benefit of the Nation not profit for the few.

Make a note in your diary. THE David Jones/Joe Green Memorial Lecture will take place at the NUM Offices Barnsley on Saturday 13 March 2010.

After consultation with friends I have decided that I will not contact Mr.A. Scargill re representation at the debate info@theheartbay.co.uk Unless Edwina and Co. consider holding the event at the Miners Hall, Victoria Road, Barnsley. Sine Die Cortonwood

Some grammar issues there Corton. Depends whether you live north or south of Stoke I suppose. South of Yorkshire people feel abandoned by the NUM. THAT'S my point from the feedback I get. I'm well aware of the stuff Messrs Scargill and Lavery do in their safe homelands, but when it comes to spreading the word in other areas they're mysteriously quiet. Just wondering what the reason for this is. Is it that the miners from the Yorkshire & Durham coalfields are a superior class of miner?

Well I thought Stoke was Up North ask our Mick Staffordshire miners remember what they say about Watford (not just the football team)

Spot on Mick-i wish they would listen.

Hey Prof. Cortonwood, I would love to see it too. Or Mr. Lavery. However, sadly, I don't there's the will to take this opportunity. Crazy, really, that there's never been an inquiry into The Miners' Strike, but at least this is a decent platform to debate it. If Edwina Currie's got the balls to do it - why haven't the NUM? Or does it need to be more "Up North"?....

This is an open invitation to an NUM info@theheartbay.co.uk lets get the Grammar right first! (This is an open invitation to a NUM) I would like to see Mr. A.Scargill represent my interests at this venue if he is willing to attend. I hope he responds to this on the 'Guestbook' link. and I hope the NUM members are thinking of some trying questions for the panel before March.

The fuel crisis. How close have we just been to shutting down our indutries because of gas shortage.? How many users were told to switch to another fuel rather than gas, because they had a cheaper tariff agreement.? In the case of a crisis that affects our National security we respond with a National force, i.e Army, Navy, or Air Force.In the case of a crisis that affects not only our National security, but also affects our industrial base and our general well being we have no NATIONAL industry to respond with.Instead we have to get the cheque book out and barter on the open market for more gas. WHY,? because Maggie squandered our long ago didn`t she? In order to crucify us, kill our industry, and make OUR product irretrievable.We produce 45 million tons of coal, yet we regularly burn 65 million tons of it. Why do we continue to import all this coal when we have it in abundance along with the highest skilled miners to go and get it.MR;BROWN LISTEN, to avoid an energy crisis, to assist our financial crisis, to lessen our unemployment figures, to cut down on local crime, heavy drinking and drug taking, your life help those who WANT to help themselves. Mick Westwood.

This is an open invitation to an NUM representative to come to Stoke-on-Trent and state the NUMs case on March 3rd at The Question Time debate to discuss The Miners' Strike. It would be a travesty if The NUM were without representation. For more info contact info@theartbay.co.uk

Going out for a pint on the 3 day week unfortunately the lights went out so had to drink bottled Guinness it will not be the last time. Ted Heath did a good job with cost of living allowance its relevant now with excessive fuel and council tax bills How many people have filled their fuel tanks in Vehicles +£50 this week. Not many police out now its snowing too many out on the picket lines in 1972 and 1985 whats Changed?