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Let me make myself clear we were told that we would have a government guarantee in place to protect the pensions beneficiaries if ever the scheme went into deficit. Well it did in 2003. But the promise of a guarantee that the scheme was sold to us on,was baseless, the fact is that we made up that deficit out of our own reserve funds in the scheme, and were charged interest on our own money by the government when that money was paid back. The governments promised guarantee never kicked in, nor will it ever kick in while they can rob one pot in the scheme to top up another pot within the scheme, without ever using tax payers money. The government nor the tax payer has ever put one penny into the scheme In my opinion we were given selective information/advice on this whole guarantee idea, we have been robbed with interest, and add on the unfair 50/50 surplus agreement it all adds up to the current tune of sterling 4.4 billion pounds that government has taken from the scheme. It is scandalous, This scheme was dreamt up by villains in grey suits. These treasury accountancy villains’ mis-sold us an idea of a government guarantee to the scheme, to its beneficiaries who were hoodwinked over a guarantee promise. I truly appreciate the efforts of the NUM and its National officials in its endeavours to talk to the relevant members of the government to address this national scandal. But to conclude, as always in our mining, history unless we rise up united, all we will get from any government is lip service.

Miners Pensions, - Make no mistake ! we were ` conned ` out of half of our pensions by a greedy Tory government who wre hell bent on grinding our faces into the dirt.They hated us, - but they loved our money.Unfotunately this Labour government loves our money even more than they did.So much that they have lied to us for over 16 years now in order to keep it.At the last count,the figure that the `Cannock lads ` now have is £4.416 BILLION that they have now taken, and this is well on the way to the gov`t own forecast of £8 BILLION OFF US BY 2019.

Pension mis-selling The pensions mis-selling scandal of the late 1980s rumbles on. More than a million people are thought to have been incorrectly advised to take out personal plans when they would have been better off in a company scheme. Compensation has been paid to hundreds of thousands of people, but not every case has been cleared up. And while the watchdogs have tightened up all the rules on pension selling it is still possible for bad advice to be given. So be wary Why doesn't the same apply to us we were badly and decieptfully advised over the MPS scheme

In the on-going argument about the MPS, I could NEVER understand why a TEST CASE was not taken out against the Trustees and the Government ( of the day) I was part of Coalfield Community Campaign which attempted to get the present Government to re-negotiate. As a miner I campaigned for a better MPS as per a motion at the the NUM Annual Conference- The so called Guarantee is a big mistake.

AWS (All women shortlists)are there 128 women left in politics that how many M.P.s are quitting this time. Its not about money though is it?

Sad news that Gerry Dillon,ex Linby NUM Secretary and Loyal to the Last,passed away last Friday,further details to follow........RIP.... See http://nottinghamshireexminer.com/ guestbook for further information when released

anybody heard anything more about the possible investment in kendal drift??

Dear Colleague Your Future In Danger I have been accused of trying to butcher the industry. I have no such intention or desire. I state that categorically and solemnly. You have been deliberately misled. Sincerely Ian MacGregor

Good luck to Mr Lavery in Wansbeck!

In reply to comments from the Wentworth MP Mr.Healey about reclaiming money from Raleys Solicitors who does he think he is? His cronies have turned politics into a shambles by their "snouts in the trough" antics. MPs are there to give assistance and advice, so do the NUM,do the MPs do it for nothing? NUM members currently still employed in the industry have continued to pay their weekly subscriptions to the union throughout the "life" of their claims & beyond, is Mr Healey suggesting we too can claim our subscriptions back from this period of membership? Under his hypothosis no trade union should charge its members anything,even though the the Tribunal Chairman in the Solicitors Regulatory Tribunal in the Raleys case said that "the NUM existed to look after it`s members welfare and wasn`t a benevolent society". Meanwhile it`s not that long ago that Mr.Healey wrote to the NUM asking for our assistance in helping the Labour Party to get re-elected! Strange that Mr.Healey has never contacted us regarding this matter also that the "Star" happily supply a one sided biased account of the issue.

In reply to "Retired Miner" Well Done to Steven Mace however I am surer Mr.Mace will want to place on record his thanks to the Yorkshire Area NUM Council without whom `s patronage the Maltby Event would never have taken place.

Got things moving for her with Sutton Manor Colliery I have established E-Mail contact appears to be in the Paris University area Cortonwood

Just spent the night at Maltby progressive club for the 25th anniversary of the miners strike, with guest speakers Ken Capstick, Ian Lavery, and none other than Mr Arthur Scargill. Three of the best orators the union has produced, the place was full with miner, ex-miners, and their families, branch officials both past and present. It was great to meet old friends again. Just a special thank you to Steve Mace NUM branch delegate without whom the event may never have taken place.

As an ex-coal mining employee in the Yorkshire Arae NUM I think the Wentworth M.P.'s comments in a Sheffield newspaper are misguided. I will not be seeking to claim back money that Raleys paid to the Yorkshire NUM for upholding my membership in The Yorkshire NUM. which I believe is in my interests long-term for a variety of reasons. Unless the M.P. would like to elaborate on those reasons on this website.

Thank you for your help! Yes I meant Phurnacite in South Wales and the names of 2 women I remember very well are Maria Mewett and Maggie Newell.

Cortonwood said this on this website way before the report was made obviously watching this site and pinching ideas. Happy to oblige if it helps

Wayne Thomas advised that I contact you regarding Six Bells Miners Memorial, please could you give me a call on 07814510242. Thanks Mair Sheen, Six Bells Communities First Co-ordinator.

Miners Pensions, - 400,000 voices should now be raised in protest against the Labour Party and their refusal to renegotiate a fairer deal with our miners pension `RIP OFF `. That`s how many members their are in both schemes, and we should let these thieves know NOW how angry we are.For them to continue thE `Theft of Miner`s Pensions ` after all of their past promises, is nothing short of a BETRAYAL of the mining communities.

Mp's resigning before the next election is not for personal reasons, it's financial. The PENSION they get is not going to be tampered with like our MPS ask Mr CAMERON what he intends to do about it (they implemented the bonus draw off) now we know what 'our' party is going to do about it. We can then make a decision on who will get our vote. We also know there is no pay rises for a long time or increases to earned interest on savings another couple of reasons why its a good time to retire for these trough sniffers. Kelly - one of the many looking into expenses - has recommended that severance payments be cut from £50k on average to 8 weeks pay; about £10k. As this moved has been slow-timed to suit the 250 MPs who'll leave at the May election, it won't apply until the next election. THAT is why they are leaving now to maximise this payment to offset the income loss from the expenses they have stashed away. I HOPE YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD TO MR CAMERON SOON BEFORE THE ELECTION SEASON STARTS AFTER IS TOO LATE COME ON LADS!!!!!!!!!

Dear SOS, I can categorically assure you that the Maltby Branch does not support the recruitment of miners' from Poland to replace the jobs of any British Mineworkers. Steve Mace NUM Maltby Branch Delegate